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00:00:02 Michelle Moran, Alina Michelewicz
Bonus banter by BuildingWell!
00:00:05 Michelle Moran, Alina Michelewicz
Laughter
00:00:08 Alina Michelewicz
Are you recording Michelle?
00:00:09 Michelle Moran
I am.
00:00:10 Alina Michelewicz
Oh! Well in that case… laughter
00:00:15 Michelle Moran
Welcome to the 2nd rendition of Bonus Banter after episode five of the BuildingWell podcast, Alina and I thought it would be nice to take a few minutes.
00:00:23 Michelle Moran
After each podcast episode and just reflect and talk about what we learned and what surprised us and what was interesting. We hope you enjoy this additional bonus episode.
00:00:33 Michelle Moran
So that was really interesting. It was good context, I think, between the NESEA presentation and then hearing Neil and Charlie talk day-to-day about what they do and then having them literally spell everything out for us here. I think now as a normal lay person, I can, I can really understand some of what they’re talking.
00:00:51 Michelle Moran
About what they’re trying to do.
00:00:53 Alina Michelewicz
Yeah, agreed. I feel like when I listened to the NESEA presentation, I couldn’t see the visuals for one. So I was struggling to understand just how the system itself works. But having Neil explain it and getting into the ins and outs and kind of describing them in
00:01:09 Alina Michelewicz
More typical terms that definitely helped me understand, especially with the swing tank and how the water temperatures work within the system.
00:01:18 Michelle Moran
Yeah, that was really interesting. I was also just the overall take away from me is how strange is it that most of our large buildings are they’re systems are sized by something that might be 40 years old, you know?
00:01:28 Alina Michelewicz
Yeah.
00:01:30 Michelle Moran
40 years ago in 1984, right, the workforce and the composition of people that occupy a building look totally different from the way it looks now, right? Especially after 2020, I believe that people are now spending 62% of their lives indoors since 2020, when it used to be 50% and in hotter places it’s up to 90%.
00:01:49 Michelle Moran
So now, we may be using a lot more hot water or hot water a lot differently.
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Than we used to
00:01:56 Alina Michelewicz
Yeah. It reminds me of.
00:01:57 Alina Michelewicz
There’s this thing going around on like TikTok and Instagram reels not to go too far down this rabbit hole, but I don’t know if you get them. Michelle. It’s like young professional lady TikTok is like the realm of the Internet that I’m talking about, where it’s making the joke about how if you’re cold at the office.
00:02:15 Alina Michelewicz
Because the temperatures were set. You’re nodding. Yeah, the the temperatures of the office were set when it was men. And so women, typically.
00:02:27 Alina Michelewicz
Sitting in an office with the full suit on, which is not how we dress for work. And there’s many women in the office, and we have a different need for temperature. So it’s like, who’s the people that we’re studying also sort of a question underlying question they have but that’s.
00:02:41 Alina Michelewicz
Like the way off tangent.
00:02:43 Michelle Moran
I liked it.
00:02:46 Alina Michelewicz
And I think what was really interesting is just how much of a building’s energy usage is from the hot water usage, 25% of it being hot water. That’s a lot. And then to be able to reduce the system cost.
00:03:00 Alina Michelewicz
By 20%. Its Pretty incredible.
00:03:02 Michelle Moran
Yeah. The first cost reduction by 20%, that’s.
00:03:05 Michelle Moran
Neil sort of glazed over that that’s a big deal, I think.
00:03:08 Alina Michelewicz
Yeah, for sure for sure. I mean 20%, it’s like it’s good amount. Yeah. And it’s interesting how it fits in with the decarb projects in general.
00:03:17 Michelle Moran
Yes. Yeah, it sort of puts that little piece of like that larger puzzle into context for me, which is.
00:03:21 Michelle Moran
Really cool.
00:03:23 Michelle Moran
Now if we can.
00:03:23 Michelle Moran
Just do every system like that in every building.
00:03:25 Alina Michelewicz
Yeah.
00:03:26 Alina Michelewicz
Well, we’ll get into the.
00:03:27 Alina Michelewicz
Building envelopes in the next.
00:03:29 Alina Michelewicz
Which is a big part of.
00:03:30 Alina Michelewicz
It so that’s good too.
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Well.
00:03:34 Michelle Moran
Thank you to all our listeners who stayed on and listened to this bonus content. We hope you enjoy. We’ll see you on the next episode.
00:03:41 Alina Michelewicz
See you on the next. Bye.
00:03:42 Michelle Moran
Alright, Thanks.